Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 10:55:05 PM
YOU GOT IT RIGHT! djhobo IN Oklahoma City
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kelsielee

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:54:40 AM
Sounds like both sides might be willing to compromise. What a novel concept. Based on some other posters' comments, many people are too rigid in their opinions and are unwilling to listen to anyone else.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 8:02:07 AM
goldilox88 from Montreal...
Just a clarification, the US buys most of its OIL from your country Canada, then Mexico, then Saudi Arabia.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:57:20 AM
EPA_Regs2Blame from Michigan...
Have you seen someone about your anger issues? I must again remind you that the President's is OBAMA without embellishment. I was amused that you chose this particular name for him cause round here bamma is a state!
You needn't agree with him, in fact that you don't could make this thread more interesting, IF, you had a single constructive thing to say, or made reasonable sense! Further, as a citizen, you are one right?, you owe the office respect. Just your basic stuff you learned at home. Schoolyard puns belong with the babies in the schoolyard.
The topic is a refinery expansion in CA...can we get back to it?
[Edited by: LetemEatCake at 7/3/2009 7:58:26 AM EST]
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granma3xnow

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:31:04 AM
I don't live with an oil refinery in my backyard. However the attorneys for the environmentalists must have produced some compelling proof in court, for the judge to have Chevron pack up. (how many times have the American people been duped before...by something they told us was OK?)
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kookiwoogi

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:26:16 AM
We can't win for losing.
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goldilox88

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:24:37 AM
go green... so where will the U.S. get its own gas instead of from Saudi Arabia?
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turbosaab

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:23:52 AM
Environmentalists are that stupid.
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Bus561

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:20:51 AM
Ignorant tree huggers are at it again. The minority rules in this case.
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foxups

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:18:07 AM
save the earth
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mdmtnbiker

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District of Columbia
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:16:27 AM
Did they get a permit or not? Sounds like buyer's remorse.
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biza4u

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:14:05 AM
This is absurd. Part of the reson for higher prices is not enough refinig capacity
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lpj

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Macon
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:10:26 AM
not in my back yard !!
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tankneverfull

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:07:13 AM
Having lived in Hawaii I am very familiar with "environmental impact statements" it is the reason Hawaii no longer has a Superferry shuttling people between Maui and Oahu, lost revenue, lost tourism but no ferry just what the locals wanted ...sounds similar.
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Doubleeez

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:05:33 AM
How can the enviornmentalists halt the wheels of progress in this energy starved country. Something's radically nwrong.
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PaylessKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:04:36 AM
I'm all for keeping the environment clean, but these environmentalist need to crawl under a rock some where.
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olcowboy14

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:04:30 AM
Another bunch of jobs going to China or India. Some people in this country really likes to shoot themselves and everyone else in the foot.
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Ringmaster2008

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:03:42 AM
These studies could take years.
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trcscout

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:03:12 AM
sounds like more government BS if you ask me
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dave364

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:02:55 AM
can these people have a real life what planet do they live on.
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nb52

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 7:00:34 AM
This decision by ONE JUDGE is the reason we will never be able to have less expensive energy in the USA.
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Weirdomania1

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:57:19 AM
you know thanks to the wacko's .... you know there was an mass extinction about 65 million years ago... the earth will survive and repopulate no matter what.... quit making stink about things that don't really matter...
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DTGas

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:57:11 AM
What,do these people walk to work?
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Hunter724

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:55:18 AM
Just what the average driver needs to hear!!
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Prescottonian

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:53:22 AM
The costs incurred thus far will be passed along and this will restrict refining capabilities, thus causing even higher prices.
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fratt

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:51:56 AM
So what is next?
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AvantiMick

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:42:13 AM
Maybe the judge is getting a kickback from a competitor oil company!?!
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Jamer

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:41:31 AM
As usual the consumer will pay for this decision with higher fuel prices. Thanks to the wacko environmentalists.
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NJColt

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:40:47 AM
Enviros got to give a little until their is an alternative.
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nstrdnvstr

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:34:35 AM
So when the price of gas starts going up in Richmond, because of the limited supply of gasoline, who do you think will get the blame, the eeeevil oil companies or the eeevil environmentalists that halted additional supply for the area?
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doncNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:33:37 AM
cost them more money for all studies.
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QueenMother

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:33:04 AM
Who's going to benefit from this?
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artyboy

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Miami
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:20:18 AM
yadd yadda yadda
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Fataugie

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:20:03 AM
Since I'm not allowed to swear on this board, all I can say is there are some really messed up people in power.
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JNewkirk

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:12:23 AM
Enviroweenies. Can't live with 'em, well, you can't live with 'em. Period.
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dhawk24

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Maine
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:10:20 AM
Environmentalists suck. I guess they would sooner have birds sh_ _ _ _ _ _ on their car, than lowering gas prices...
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GasholeMI

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 6:06:44 AM
Yeah, we simply need more 107 year old refineries. Soon we will need more buggy whips too.
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stpetebp

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:59:41 AM
Screw the environmentalist
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BigDogOH

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:55:25 AM
Greenies are ruining this country
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mdegug

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:53:43 AM
screw the environmentalist, save the americans
[Edited by: mdegug at 7/3/2009 5:56:13 AM EST]
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BM4225

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:48:01 AM
No problem, they can just send all of their refined porducts to other counties, and state, and this county can just import all of their fuel at a higher price.
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Ratso

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:47:13 AM
This is getting real old man ...very fast too!
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BoerneWatch

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:39:42 AM
The real reason why we have so few new refineries.
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cheapertvs

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:37:18 AM
It sounds like Chevron got ripped off.
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Petrock

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:35:25 AM
Decisions like this always put upward pressure on gas prices. Less production and a lot of Chevron's sunk cost that has to be recovered. I hope there really was a sound basis for the ruling.
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mazdaboy

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 5:03:09 AM
Looks like more homework for Chevron.
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Mark929

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 4:58:58 AM
This was an oddball decision.
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 4:49:28 AM
When will all this non sense end. Must we do away with the clean air laws and the EPA in order to stop Nut cases from abusing the laws to destroy us. Legal terrorisn is just as deadly as guns.
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garthfanok1

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 4:45:36 AM
check it once, check it twice.........
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mandoid

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2009 4:43:00 AM
CA environmental laws coming soon to state like yours.
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